Allegra Frank (Slate)

ALLEGRA FRANK: On my old computer, I literally had it bookmarked on my bookmark bar so I could just look at it. And then I don't know what happened, but months later, I noticed this, and I was, "I don't remember why I did this."

ERIC JOHNSON: OK. I want everyone listening to do something. Without looking at the show notes, because that is cheating, write down what you think Allegra Frank is talking about there. Later in the show, when you hear that clip again, look at your prediction because it will be wrong. Anyway, it's Allegra Frank, today on Follow Friday!

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ERIC: I'm Eric Johnson. Welcome to Follow Friday, a podcast about who you should follow online. Every week, I talk to internet creators about who they follow. These creators have great taste and they will be our guides to the best people on the internet, who we should be following, too.

Today on the show is Allegra Frank, a senior editor at Slate and a former reporter and editor for Vox.com and Polygon. She's also the co-host of a podcast called Aw, Would You Look At The Time, along with Andru Marino.

You can find her on Twitter @LegsFrank, and you can follow along with us today. Every person Allegra recommends will be linked in the show notes and in the transcript at followfridaypodcast.com. Allegra, welcome to Follow Friday.

ALLEGRA: Hi, Eric! Thanks for having me.

ERIC: So nice to have you here. Nice to see you again. We are recording this two days after the 2021 Oscars. We were originally going to tape yesterday, but you cover the Oscars for Slate, and you were like, "I'm going to need a little break, just to recuperate after that." So without making you rehash the entire evening, let's just do the short version: Worst part of this year's show, and best part of this year's show?

ALLEGRA: Well, let me first say I did not recuperate at all, because I have been an insomniac. So I'm still exhausted, but I'm happy to be here with you. The worst part of this year's very bad show ... the ending. Oh my God.

ERIC: Oh, yeah.

ALLEGRA: I don't feel weird about spoiling it. Yeah, you watched it?

ERIC: It's not a spoiler! Yeah.

ALLEGRA: Exactly. No one is watching this on a tape today, it's the frikkin' Oscars. Yeah, so basically, usually, they end with Best Picture, but this year, the producers decided to go out on a limb and end with the final two acting categories, Best Actor and Best Actress thinking that that might entice people to keep watching to the end, which doesn't make a ton of sense.

ERIC: Nope.

ALLEGRA: But it seemed like they were banking on Chadwick Boseman to win Best Actor. He died last year. It was incredibly sad and it seems like they were setting up to have this really big emotional denouement where his widow comes out and gives a beautiful speech, etc. So it really seemed like they were setting that up and Chadwick Boseman was the frontrunner.

But then, he didn't win. Anthony Hopkins won instead, who, as far as I know, very deserved. But Anthony Hopkins wasn't there. So very awkward Joaquin Phoenix just had to abruptly say, "The Academy will accept the award. Goodnight," and then it just ends.

ERIC: I saw someone described Joaquin Phoenix as "substitute social studies teacher energy," yeah.

ALLEGRA: [laughs] Exactly that. You could tell, sweating through his suit, does not want to be there, terrified of everyone. Oh, it was so brutally awkward, and they don't have a host anymore, ever. So it's not like they could throw to the host

ERIC: It can't be like that La La Land/Moonlight year, where Jimmy Kimmel can just try and paper over it, "Wow, that was weird. Anyway, goodnight."

ALLEGRA: Yeah, exactly. It was just like, "All right. Bye, everybody, local news time." So everyone's just sitting there, stunned. It was the worst. It was hilarious.

ERIC: And what about the best part of the Oscars?

ALLEGRA: I really liked Daniel Kaluuya's speech, which was this very long-winded thing when he won best supporting actor for Judas and the Black Messiah, which he was great in. But they didn't cut anyone off this year for speeches. So he was kind of rambling after talking about how the Black Panthers were so influential.

And then he was like, "But anyway, we're gonna turn up tonight. Look at this. My mom and my dad had sex, and now I'm here! This is awesome!"

ERIC: [laughs]

ALLEGRA: And they cut to his mom and his sister, who he brought with him, in the audience and his mom was mouthing like, "What are you talking about?" And they're both so mad. Oh, it was beautiful. It was so funny.

ERIC: I love it when actors show up to the award shows and they've clearly already had a few of something. They're clearly like, "I'm starting this night off just the way I'm going out, win or lose."

ALLEGRA: Yeah. [laughs] It was amazing.

ERIC: That's enough Oscars talk. Let's find out who Allegra Frank follows. Allegra, before the show, I gave you a list of categories and I asked you to tell me some people you follow who fit in those categories. Your first pick is in the category "Someone who makes you laugh." And you said Ray Sipe, who is on Twitter @raysipe.

He's also on a bunch of other platforms, but I'm only including this sentence so that I can share his YouTube username, which is raysipeladygaga.

ALLEGRA: [laughs]

ERIC: [laughs] I had never heard of Ray or the videos he posts online, but after about 30 seconds of looking at his Twitter, I think I am obsessed with him. So, explain what Ray does and why he makes you laugh.

ALLEGRA: [laughs] Ray Sipe is this older man, a retiree. He lives in Florida, as do many older men do. And he's been, as you said, on a varied set of social media for several years now. It could be a decade. It's been a very long time. I was only introduced to him actually by Andru a few years ago.

And Ray Sipe, basically, he posts TikTok-length videos, even on Tumblr or Twitter or YouTube; very short videos using bizarre filters or wearing weird wigs, or just making strange voices. And he loves Lady Gaga, yes.

He started out making little Lady Gaga fan videos where he would just say something like, "Lady Gaga is amazing!" Basically, a video of his would be him saying a thing and then maybe vamping a little bit and that's it for 12 seconds.

ERIC: Very short videos.

ALLEGRA: Yes, very short. And it's just so funny and jarring because it's this old white dude, wrinkly, weird guy. I chose to share his Twitter, in particular, because he still posts those clips of him saying, "Jojo's Bizarre Adventure!" which he does a lot.

ERIC: [laughs]

ALLEGRA: In random outfits, he'll just say "JoJo's Bizarre Adventure," which is an anime, or, "Naruto!" Just random different things, either things that are trendy or things that are very geeky-fandom-popular.

But on Twitter, he also will retweet or share random things. So something he does is, I guess, his iHeartRadio account is linked to his Twitter. So it'll just randomly have, "I like this song at iHeartRadio." And it's some Demi Lovato song from three years ago or whatever.

ERIC: Like he connected it years ago and he just forgot that it was on, one of those connections.

ALLEGRA: Yeah, exactly. It's like, who even uses iHeartRadio? Who links iHeart Radio to their Twitter? So I just love seeing him share little weird snapshots into his life. And I don't know if there's something off about him. I don't know if his grandchildren are facilitating this.

It all seems very sincere and self-driven and that's what makes it so funny to me is that there's just this old man who has no business on the internet, by normal people's standards, and he's just s**tposting, basically. He's just s**tposting and he's very good at it. And it's like, how do you know how to do this so well? And there is no explanation. There's no reasoning. He never goes "out of character." And I love it. I hope he never stops.

ERIC: He has way too much access to wigs and props, I have to say. Someone needs to take away his credit card.

ALLEGRA: [laughs]

ERIC: No, but his most popular video on YouTube ... it's impossible to really capture the majesty of this video in words. So I'm just going to say, I'll link to it in the show notes. Everyone should go watch it, but it's him reenacting a scene from Shrek, which is, of course, the internet's favorite movie to meme.

And it's incredible because he's just playing a clip of himself reading Donkey's lines. And then he walks out into frame in ... poorly applied green makeup, let's just generously call it that, to do the Shrek part. And it's just truly incredible. I have to say, this is quite a discovery. [laughs]

ALLEGRA: It's really amazing. And I love that he's just so committed to sharing all of this content on every social media platform. So, it doesn't matter where you are, you will find Ray Sipe.

ERIC: Yeah. Now, have you ever heard of the Raycyclopedia Sipematica?

ALLEGRA: No! What?

ERIC: I found this by Googling him. This is a fan Wiki devoted entirely to Ray Sipe, documenting all the different types of videos he makes and all the different pop culture references he has made. This is from the Ray Sipe article on the Raycyclopedia Sipematica. It says, "It is believed he is an immortal who spans the cosmos of time and space as a divine entity, bringing the mortal worlds of the universe his signature brand of comedy and grace; this, however, is pure speculation." [laughs]

ALLEGRA: [laughs] I love that. I like this person.

ERIC: I like the fact that they had to clarify, "To be fair, it's just speculation. We don't really know if this is right." [laughs]

ALLEGRA: I know. I've done some research into Ray. It's very hard to figure out his backstory. I've done some research. I'd rather not share my findings, in case I am correct, because I think that we should just let his mystique define him, and not try and understand, as badly as I want to.

ERIC: It reminded me of, do you follow Gerald Stratford?

ALLEGRA: No.

ERIC: He's an older Englishman who is obsessed with gardening, and specifically with taking pictures and videos with very large vegetables.

ALLEGRA: Oh, that guy!

ERIC: Yeah! He's the one that ends every tweet by saying, "Cheers." It's the cutest thing on the internet. It's extremely posi-core, extremely wholesome. But I feel like he and Ray must be long lost... they're kindred spirits from across the Atlantic.

ALLEGRA: Oh, I would totally ship them if I felt that was not a weird thing to do with two old men.

ERIC: [laughs] Well, that was Ray Sipe, who is on Twitter @raysipe. Let's move on to Allegra's next follow. I asked you for someone you don't know, but want to be your friend. And you said Grace Freud, who is the co-host of the podcast Competitive Literature. She is on Twitter at @GraceGFreud.
So, talk about Grace and why you want her to be your friend.

ALLEGRA: So Grace is this 20-something, very funny comedian and comedy writer. I discovered her on Twitter, it was before the election last year. Oh, you know what? I think it was around the DNC because she had this really funny sketch, she posts sketch videos sometimes, where she was begging someone for a ride home from the DNC or the debate. And it was just this very funny, dry sketch where she's begging for a ride home.

GRACE FREUD: "Hello, and welcome to the final speech of 2020's Democratic National Convention. The DNC has allowed me to give these closing remarks because I need a ride home. I'm the only person who showed up in Milwaukee. I do not read the news, and only found out about the pandemic two days ago. Please, if anyone in Milwaukee is watching, I need a ride home from your city to Denver, Colorado.

ALLEGRA: I found it just so hilarious and endearing, and I was like, "This is like my friends' sense of humor." And I went and I obviously stalked her after that. We're like the same age. We have a lot in common; similar music taste and TV taste. She's into cartoons. She's writing for the Rick and Morty comics now, and she's written for ClickHole in the past.

So I was just like, "She seems so cool and funny." I would love to hang out with an up-and-coming comedian like her who is of my age group, and seems pretty genuine. She's not just posting like Ray. She's not just posting s**tposts all the time. She's also talking about the hardships of breaking into this industry, the comedy or writing industry.

And she talks about being trans and LGBT issues. So she seems like a genuine person, a multifaceted person. So following her, definitely, I followed her first for the comedy, but now I just enjoy getting these updates on her life. And I was very happy when she announced that she got this gig writing for the Rick and Morty comics.

ERIC: That's really great, yeah.

ALLEGRA: Yeah! In this short amount of time, I just have felt this weird, kindred excitement for her. And we follow each other on Twitter. She very graciously followed me back and I was just like, "Oh wow." But I've never reached out or anything like that because I feel like if I want to be legitimately friends with a person, which is what I want in this case, I don't know how to broker that on Twitter.

I can't just say, "Hey, I think you're really funny and cool," and then it becomes a genuine connection. Of course, I could do that, but I always feel weird about it. So I'm like, "I like following you and I would say I'm a fan, but I would rather just be your friend and just have regular conversations with you." You know what I mean?

There are definitely some people where I'm like, I just want to have fan-ish conversations, like a celebrity, but this is not a celebrity. This is just a very funny person online, if that makes sense.

ERIC: Yeah, because if someone comes to you and says, "I love your work. I think you're so funny." I guess you're supposed to go, "Thank you? Speaking of segues to other topics..." I think it's very awkward for the person you're talking to in that circumstance to progress the relationship beyond, like, "So, what do you also like?" [laughs]

But yeah, Grace did this video, one of the sketches you mentioned. She did in this video last year that cracked me up, where she's calculating the number of gay people in the world. And she does an unscientific survey of her friends and decides that everyone on average knows 165 gay people. I'm going to splice in a clip here of what happens next.

GRACE: "So, if the average person knows 165.25 gay people, and there are currently 7.6 billion people on Earth, that means there are about 1,256,000,000,000 gay people. Too much? Not enough? I don't know! But I am happy that I finally know how many gay people there are."

ALLEGRA: Oh, my God. See? It's just a funny sketch, but coupled with the rest of her social media, I'm like, you also seem like a normal person who is just talented and very funny.

ERIC: Yeah, this is something that's come up a couple of times in the show is when you have someone like Grace — a really funny, really talented person, but who's also from a minority group that's been marginalized, been oppressed over time, and how are they walking that line of being funny, but also talking about, "Hey, here's some serious s**t that's happening to people like me."

And Grace does a really good job of this. I was looking at her tweets, and yesterday, in between jokes and talking about her standup sets, she's talking about what Republicans are trying to do to oppress trans people and saying, "Hey, if you know any trans people, cut us a break. This is awful right now."

So, to your point earlier, I'm really impressed with the way she's able to comport herself and to do both those things so well, where she's communicating clearly her experience, while also being incredibly funny. It's so hard to do well.

ALLEGRA: Absolutely, because I feel like people tend to lean in one of those directions because it's sort of easier to "market yourself" that way. Ultimately, Twitter is a self-indulgent and often self-promotional platform. So I think about this too like, "Is this the kind of thing my audience, my followers are going to be interested in reading?" But that shouldn't dictate my content in the ideal world. It shouldn't dictate my content.

And I feel like Grace is someone who says, "What I believe in and what I'm thinking about and what I care about, that's what I'm going to share. And what people are following me for and the videos that get the most likes or the tweets that get the most retweets, that shouldn't dictate what I am using my online presence for."

ERIC: Exactly. Yeah. She can have the really popular, really funny video, but that's not the entirety of who she is for sure.

ALLEGRA: Yeah.

ERIC: Before we go to the break, I want to mention a nonprofit that Grace had listed in her Twitter bio. It's called Trans Lifeline and they're at translifeline.org. They provide emotional and financial support to trans people in crisis. I'm going to be donating to support them. I encourage you all to do the same. One more time they are at TransLifeLine.org.

That was Grace Freud, who is on Twitter @GraceGFreud. We're going to take a quick break now, but we'll be back in a minute with Allegra Frank.

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ERIC: Welcome back to Follow Friday. Allegra Frank, I asked you to tell me about someone super-talented who is still under the radar. And you said Julie Kwon, who is on Instagram @kwon__julie. So talk about what Julie does and why she's so impressive.

ALLEGRA: It's so funny to read that aloud when it has the underscores, because the two underscores, it is important to have both of them included in there. But, of course, I just read it as Julie Kwon. So I will preface this by saying that Julie Kwon, I consider a friend. I have met her, I think, once actually in person, but we've mostly fostered our friendship through Instagram.

So it's both that I am friends with her, but I think even if I was not, I would be a huge fan of her artwork. So on her Instagram, in particular, she does a lot of colored pencil or pencil drawings of both funny things, like tongue-in-cheek, semi-autobiographical comics about what it's like to be an artist or a young millennial who is suffering from the struggles that all millennials are coming through.

It's this sort of anime-tinged style with characters with big heads and big eyes, but that's not her only style. She will post something that's clearly a dashed-off, but very funny and still well-done comic. And then the next post will be a beautiful, fully colored drawing of... I'm looking at one that she captioned, "Some sort of magic fantasy space royalty". But it looks like it's pastels and it's this woman with a beautiful headdress and all these colors on the dress.

So she doesn't just stick to that cartoony comic style that I see a lot of artists on Instagram traffic in. And as much as I love that style, I love that Julie is someone who dabbles in so many different kinds of styles.

Her coloring is so great. She's able to do these really realistic portraits of all kinds of people. She has a really diverse cast of characters in all of her art, which I also love to see. It's not just self-portraits or black and white drawings of the people in her life. She also illustrates young Black women and other children and adults of marginalized groups. And that's just something I love to see on my feed; the diversity of her artwork.

And she's illustrated two different young adult picture books. So she also has some published work from beyond just the Instagram page, which has been really cool to see. There's one book that she illustrated called The Fearless Flights of Hazel Ying Lee, which is...

ERIC: I was going to mention this. Amazing. I was looking at the pictures on Instagram.

ALLEGRA: Yeah. So cool to see her post about that because it's exactly, as I was saying, still something that comports with the rest of her style, which is funny and smart and also not too self-serious. But also, this is a biographical young adult picture book about the first female Asian-American military pilot.

There's also this gorgeous coloring and shading. She is trying to capture this historical figure in a really sensitive way. So there's a level of talent that she displays that is above, again, what I often see on Instagram. And as much as I love it, this flatter, cartoony, super-cute style. I just really respect people who are able to do so many different things with their art. It's what I think is the sign of a really masterful artist.

ERIC: Yeah, totally agree. I was obsessed with, diving deeper and deeper into her Instagram history. It's all the different styles she's doing, all the different products she's taking on.

And I will say one of the other things that jumped out at me was, and this is more generally in the simpler drawings you're referring to, but she has that masterful ability to capture the expressions and poses and the things you wouldn't necessarily see in a photo or a painting of someone. For example, her most recent post at the time of this recording is a series of drawings where she's giving her cat scratches and he is shoving his butts in her face.

ALLEGRA: [laughs] Yeah.

ERIC: So that is a pretty standard Instagram comic format of like reaction to a human and the animal interacting. It's not quite like the most complex of what her work is, but the way she draws her own disgust is just hilarious to me. It's one of these things where you have to be really good to bring out this much emotion in a relatively simple figure. Do you have a particular favorite thing that she's done other than what you've mentioned?

ALLEGRA: That one is really funny, the one you just described because there is this mounting... It's a slideshow on Instagram and it's this mounting level of disgust in the character's, her own face, that is just so beautifully conveyed.

There is one that I really like, and I'll send you the link, but I'll describe it now.

ERIC: Oh, wow.

ALLEGRA: As I was saying, something I really appreciate is that she doesn't just draw characters who are herself. So this is a young Black girl with her hair in a little puff on her head, kind of how I'm wearing my hair right now. And she is following her cat outside and she's in front of this really beautiful pink building and a white fence.

The colors are really striking. It's very bright, differently colored, differently shaded green leaves. And just the coloring, the texture of it from the hair, to the skin, to the cat's fur, I just really, my eye has always been drawn to this one when I just scroll through Julie's Instagram, whenever she posts a story or whatever. And then I'm just like, "Let me go look at her art again."

This is the one I just look at both for its very striking colors, and then also seeing an artist draw a young Black woman and be attentive to the details that define what we look like and how that differs from other kinds of people. That's something that feels too rare from artists who draw in this style, in particular.

It's somewhere in between the cartoonier style and the more realistic style that she often can do very well. So I really like this picture. I don't think it has a name, but it's from May, 2020 on her Instagram.

ERIC: Yeah, it's incredible and I will link to it in the transcript of the podcast on the website. I also want to call out, shifting gears to a very different sort of post. I want to call out the only Instagram story that she has saved to her profile. This is from a couple of years ago, and it's a series where she discovers a bunch of packets of almond butter in the street, and she decides to take them home and try one. [laughs] It's hard to explain why this is so funny, but it is. Just look at her Instagram story. It's underneath her bio. It just says, "Nut butter," and it's just a great little slice of life.

ALLEGRA: It's a fascinating tale of her experience with nut butter.

ERIC: A thrilling adventure. Well, that was Julie Kwon, who is on Instagram @kwon__julie. We have time for one more follow today. Allegra, this was a weird one. I asked you for someone who has stopped posting, but needs to come back. And you said George Ice Cube, who is on Twitter @GeorgeIceCube1.

So before we get into this Twitter, we should acknowledge that George Ice Cube is an actual video game character in the Banjo-Kazooie video games. Should we talk about the actual George Ice Cube or should we just go straight to Twitter? What do you think?

ALLEGRA: Maybe we should talk about the actual George Ice Cube, I guess. George Ice Cube is a small non-playable character from the sequel to Banjo-Kazooie, which actually is the first video game I ever played on a console.

ERIC: Whoa.

ALLEGRA: So I have a fondness for Banjo-Kazooie, although I never played it's the sequel, which is the one that George Ice Cube is in, which is called Banjo-Tooie. And he's just a sentient giant ice cube. And I'm looking at the Banjo-Kazooie Fandom Wiki, and it says, "He is a giant but friendly ... Chinker," which sounds really offensive, but that's, I guess, what the ice cube creatures are called. "He's a giant, but friendly ice cube," let's say that, "who is prone to terrible and usually near-death accidents. He's usually seen in conjunction with his beloved wife, Mildred Ice Cube, which I love. I love this bio.

ERIC: Mildred Ice Cube. [laughs]

ALLEGRA: George and Mildred.

ERIC: OK. With that in mind, with this important lore established, what is this Twitter account, @GeorgeIceCube1 on Twitter? Could you explain this to the best of your ability?

ALLEGRA: [laughs] Oh, my God. So George Ice Cube on Twitter, only has 45 followers, I should say, by the way.

ERIC: You're one of them.

ALLEGRA: Yes, I'm one of them and they followed me back, which I was so flattered. The last time they tweeted was September 2019. The account started in the summer of 2018. They posted a little bit that summer, then went away for a year, came back the following summer, and that's it. So they literally have not been posting since summer 2019 at this point.

And the way I found this account, I continue to ask myself because on my old computer, I literally had it bookmarked on my bookmark bar so I could just look at it. And then I don't know what happened, but months later, I noticed this, and I was, "I don't remember why I did this." But I retweeted them once. Maybe it just came up because someone I followed retweeted them or something.

But they tweeted on June 11th, 2018, "Happy Monday, you cube-icles." And I thought that was really funny, so I retweeted it. And from there, I went and I discovered, this is someone who is role-playing on Twitter as George Ice Cube from Banjo-Tooie. And so, they just mostly posted about like, "Can Banjo-Tooie be Super Smash Bros?" "Will they remake Banjo-Tooie?" "I want a new banjo game."

But then at the same time, they'll do like #WheresMildred because they're looking for their wife, Mildred. "Feel free to slide in my DMs #can'tfindwife #wantnewcube."

ERIC: [laughs]

ALLEGRA: So I just was like, I barely knew who this character was, but because of this one, random retweet, I just was like, "What is happening? They are tweeting so much." They're going between being very committed to this role-play of like, "I'm from Banjo-Tooie and I want a new Banjo game," to being like, "Need help for shopping," posts a poll, and it's vote for shorts or jorts.

So it's this really bizarre role-play of this ice cube and I thought that was the funniest freaking thing. Clearly, I love s**tpost-y Twitter and social media accounts. And I was enthralled by this. And because they don't tweet very much... I mean, OK, they tweeted a lot and then they just stopped for a long time. I've read their entire Twitter feed many times because you can just do it so quickly.

All of their tweets are so short. Half of them are pictures. They have a few retweets in there about "Where's Mildred?" "Have you seen Mildred?" "I need friends." And it just always makes me laugh. And so George hasn't tweeted since September 2019. And I wonder, have they found Mildred? Are they OK with the fact that they'll never be in Super Smash Bros and that there won't be another Banjo-Kazooie game anytime soon? I just constantly wonder about George, the character, and the person behind the account and why they stopped, and why they even started.

ERIC: [laughs] This is just so delightful and it also clears up something that I was wondering about, which is that when I saw that you follow them and it's a small account, I had half a mind to wonder, "Is this Allegra or is this someone at Polygon role-playing as George?" But it sounds like, to the best of your knowledge, that this is some very enthusiastic ice cube role-player and not anyone that you know.

ALLEGRA: It's not me. God, Eric, imagine if I was pitching my secret finsta Twitter on here and it's just me role-playing as George Ice Cube.

ERIC: [laughs]

ALLEGRA: That would be amazing. I have no idea who George Ice Cube is. I mean, I tell you, I barely remember how I found this account. I just one day noticed that I had bookmarked it to my bookmarks and was like, "Why?" and then just got obsessed with looking at it.

So I've no clue who this is. No one I know, one, knows about this account, or two, finds this as funny as I do. I remember sending this to other people and they did not understand why I was obsessed with this. And I'm looking at George Ice Cube and they've only gotten two more followers since I followed. So not a huge following, definitely the most obscure person I follow on Twitter. And I think about them constantly.

ERIC: Well, George, please come back. And please come in someplace cold. Summer is coming, George, and you can't take that risk. We want you back.

ALLEGRA: Please!

ERIC: That was George Ice Cube, who is on Twitter @GeorgeIceCube1. Allegra, thank you for sharing your follows with us today. Before we go, let's make sure our listeners know how to find you online. Where do you want them to follow you?

ALLEGRA: Definitely follow me on Twitter. I am @LegsFrank. I used to s**tpost more than I do, but now I keep it profesh, but it's either me retweeting work or, yes, s**tposting about the mice in my apartment or the weird things that my parents say to me. Or strangers on the street.

And you should also check out the podcast that I do with Andru Marino. It's called Aw, Would You Look At The Time. You can follow that on Twitter, too, which is @awylatt. We also stream on Twitch sometimes under that same name. So those are generally where you can find me and where I am somewhat active.

Please don't try to find me on Instagram. I hate when people do that. Same with Facebook. If you Google my name, it's always like "Allegra Frank age," "Allegra Frank Instagram." Bitch, no. You don't need to know how old I am and don't look for my Instagram.

ERIC: [laughs]

ALLEGRA: So just find me on Twitter and listen to the podcast, Aw, Would You Look At The Time?

ERIC: You can find me on Twitter @HeyHeyESJ, and this show on Twitter or Instagram @followfridaypod. Don't bother looking for me on Instagram either, but I am 90 years old.

ALLEGRA: [laughs]

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That's all for this week. This is Eric Johnson, reminding you to talk about people behind their backs. And when you do, say something nice. See you next Friday!